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Art: Mary Magdalene giving
Communion to Judas
Da Vinci Code, bloodline, Mary
Magdalene as Mrs. Christ
Book "Historical Mary":
"Mary" means sacred prostitute
Resurrection of Mary instead of
Lazarus
Beloved disciple is Mary M -
wide-open artistic secret
"John" as a code-name for
Mary Magdalene
Book rvw: Brock: Mary M, First
Apostle: Struggle for Authority.
Book: Brock: Mary M, 1st Apostle:
Struggle for Authority
Female John in Golden Children's
Bible
Michael
wrote:
>Religious
Experience in Earliest Christianity: A Missing Dimension in New Testament Study
>Luke
Timothy Johnson
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0800631293
>April
1998, rank 157K
>Review
title: Religious Experiencing perspective on Christian origins
>Rating:
5/5
>A
clear, concise, much-needed perspective on the beginnings of Christianity. Critiques the limitations of the Theology
perspective and the Historical Sociopolitical perspective, and explains why
scholars are averse to looking at the origins of Christianity from the point of
view of religious experiencing.
>Central
chapters cover glossalia and especially sacred meals, looking for the kind of
experiencing that was common to the Mystery Religions and Jewish
initiation. The convenient footnotes
have valuable references to the books he praises and critiques. Ends with a call to start looking for
religious experiencing as the main cause of Christianity.
>The
cover has a good painting of Mary "John" Magdalene the Beloved
Disciple, and Jesus feeding the Eucharist to Judas.
"Jesus
feeding the Eucharist to Judas" -- correction:
The cover
with the painting:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0800631293.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
To zoom
this picture in Windows XP: right-click: Save Picture As: [My Pictures] Save:
Right-click: Go to My Pictures: double-click 0800631293.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg:
Windows Picture and Fax Viewer appears.
Click the + magnifying glass icon.
The cover of the actual book is perfectly sharp, though this zoomed
online image is blurry.
Judas and
Jesus share something in common in this painting: neither has a halo. Judas clasping the purse is praying with
bent knee and looking up as Jesus.
Jesus' finger and the piece of bread both are touching Judas' lips;
Judas is kissing the piece of bread.
Judas' head, like Mary/John's, is lower than Jesus'. The cup on the table is like a spiky
hand-grenade; compare the "teeth" veil remnants on Amanita.
I could
not determine the painter; the cover notes say La Cene [The Communion], Musee
d'Unterlinden, Colmar, France. This
cover reproduction is monochromatic orange-brown.
Jesus has
a hand on the table, but Judas doesn't.
Jesus' left arm is fully visible and has no folded cuff. The right hand administering Communion to
Judas is disconnected visually by Mary/John's halo and has a folded cuff. Mary's left hand, arm, and folded cuff are
visible; that hand rests on a right hand that is visually disconnected and has
no sleeve or cuff visible. If the hand
holding the bread is Jesus', then his left sleeve lacks a folded cuff while his
right hand has a folded cuff. If the
hand holding the bread is Mary's, then both of Mary's cuffs are folded.
The
grey-haired balding man on Jesus' right (compare
http://www.kfki.hu/~arthp/html/l/lorenzo/viterbo/madonna.html) has one hand on
the table and this would probably be Peter (though arguably possibly
James). We can expect it to be either
James or Peter, because the main apostles are Peter, James, and John, and John
(Mary) is already accounted for, the Most Beloved Disciple with head on Jesus'
bosom. As always, the scene has Jesus
plus 12 figures, one of whom is indicated as Judas.
Luke
(short version that omits the "for you" vicarious atonement phrases):
Then he
took a cup, and after giving thanks he said, "Take this and divide it
among yourselves. For I tell you that from now on I will not drink of the fruit
of the vine until the kingdom of God comes." Then he took a loaf of bread,
and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them saying,
"This is my body. But see, the one who betrays me is with me, and his hand
is on the table."
The
painting makes Judas as holy as Jesus -- neither has a halo, though the Beloved
Disciple Mary/John does. With respect
to "the one who betrays me is with me and his hand is on the table",
it implies Mary/John and Judas are innocent, while Peter (or whoever sits at
his right hand) and other apostles are the betrayers.
I would
like to know the painter and date, and a URL to see this painting clearly.
Related:
http://ramon_k_jusino.tripod.com/perugino.htm
- Mary "John" Magdalene
http://www.magdalene.org/contents.htm
- Mary (with jar)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0892819979
- Amanita encoded in Christian art
http://www.entheomedia.org/
- Amanita and Datura encoded in Christian art
The image
is now available at http://www.egodeath.com/entheogenpicfinds.htm.
Monday's
tv show The Da Vinci Code was connected with Dan Brown's book.
The Da
Vinci Code
Dan
Brown
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0385504209
Rank: #1
Dan Brown,
Starbird, Pagels and Baigent or Leigh spoke in the television program.
Many
people are unfamiliar with any alternative theories such as this.
I note
that given that Jesus and Mary and the rest are mythological figures -- maybe
invented in the Middle Ages along with the whole of "ancient" church
history per Edwin Johnson -- they can only have had mythical children.
Brown's
book's popularity may explain the great popularity of my book list:
Mary
"John" Magdalene, The Beloved Disciple
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/listmania/list-browse/-/CV3ZTFHJV6TP
http://lumen.org/issue_contents/contents51.html
Gnosis
final issue, page 49
The
Priory of Sion Hoax
by
Robert Richardson
Some claim
that the Grail is the bloodline of Christ, perpetuated in the Merovingian
dynasty of France. Where did this idea come from? [answer: right-wing power-mongers]
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Priory+of+Sion+Hoax%22
http://www.alpheus.org/html/articles/esoteric_history/richardson1.html
by
Robert Richardson
In recent
years, a great deal of information has been published in books like Holy Blood,
Holy Grail alleging that the Holy Grail actually refers to a bloodline
descended from Jesus. By this account Jesus and Mary Magdalene produced
offspring, and their descendants gave rise to the Merovingian dynasty, which
ruled France from 476 to 750 A.D. Well intentioned readers and even authors
have been deceived by this story and have mistaken it for the revelation of a
suppressed history. Unfortunately the only thing that has been suppressed is
the truth.
The Grail
is not a bloodline. This false story originated in reams of fraudulent
documents created by an extreme right-wing French sect. The group responsible
for these fictions, calling itself the "Priory of Sion" and claiming
an ancient esoteric lineage, has kept its own authentic history carefully
hidden. How it constructed its fraud has not been revealed. It is long past
time for the light of truth to reveal the "Priory of Sion" and the
fictional bloodline it has promoted for what they are really are -- a fraud.
The background of this group reveals its actual motives and sources of
information.
---end---
http://www.anzwers.org/free/posmis/
Priory
of Sion Misconceptions –
Robert
Richardson and Steven Mizrach
VIRTUALLY
EVERYTHING on the Internet about the Priory of Sion can be described as pure
hokum that cannot be treated seriously. The various accounts found on all the
websites are all similar to each other and are mostly plagiarisms of the
accounts found in The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail [1] and in The Messianic
Legacy [2], and one is led to believe that the whole world is composed of Flat
Earthers who do not want to accept the evidence of the Hubble Telescope
(Plantard was a proven charlatan and forger who lived in a world of his own
[3]). Authors Baigent, Lincoln and Leigh were obviously not competent 'critics'
in the basic sense of what is expected from objective historical research and
merely took all the Pierre Plantard gobbledygook seriously – if Plantard
claimed that the Priory of Sion was linked to world politics, an ‘American
contingent’, the Kreisau Circle, the Knights of Malta and the Vatican, with
Roberto Calvi, etc, then this was all ‘historical fact’ and not the twisted
aberrations of some fantasist.
There are a
couple of exceptions to this unfortunate situation, and one of these exceptions
contains basic mistakes. Robert Richardson's The Priory of Sion Hoax, an
abridged version of The Unknown Treasure: the Priory of Sion Fraud and the
Spiritual Treasure of Rennes-le-Château (Houston, TX: NorthStar, 1998) sets out
to debunk all the lies, the myths, and the legends and to ‘finally prove’ that
everything about the Priory of Sion was a waste of time.
Robert
Richardson's well-intended debunking contains allegations that need to be
debunked. ... What Richardson's article reveals however, is that he got his
‘information’ – which he seems to have uncritically accepted - from Gérard de
Sède's 1988 book, Rennes-le-Château – Le Dossier, Les Impostures, Les
Phantasmes, Les Hypothèses. Gérard de Sède in turn claimed to have got his
‘information’ from the ‘diaries of Émile Hoffet in 1966’ that he was not
allowed to take photocopies of (here Gérard de Sède had obviously gotten
himself into the habit of copying Plantard's methods of creating fantasies ...
---end---
>>>Jesus
and Mary and the rest are mythological figures -- maybe invented in the Middle
Ages along with the whole of "ancient" church history per Edwin
Johnson -- they can only have had mythical children.
>>How
can we have Christians running around in first century, being the main event in
circus maximus, and possibly the ones who torched rome in 64... if the whole
thing was "maybe invented
in the
Middle Ages"
There were
no Christians -- in any meaningful sense -- in the first century; no
persecution of Christians; no blamed Christians for the fire. The whole official history is back-projected
fiction and fabrication created some centuries later. At most, there were folkish and mystic-state tales involving the
apostles, prior to the fabrication of the official Catholic Church history
which was dreamed up around 1500.
That's
according to the most radical scholarship, particularly the later Edwin
Johnson: "Pauline Epistles".
The Nag Hammadi scrolls are a problem or challenge for the theory to
explain -- if it weren't for the scrolls, this theory would be pretty easy to
maintain. So radically late-dating the
scrolls as medieval forgeries is a task at hand, to maintain this theory.
The New
Chronology: The Dark Ages Didn't Exist -- time falsification, Edwin Johnson,
Heribert Illig, Uwe Topper, Hans-Ulrich Niemitz, Christoph Marx, Jean Hardouin,
Wilhelm Kammeier
http://www.egodeath.com/newchronology.htm
Edwin
Johnson, A Radical Advocate of Chronology Criticism -- Uwe Topper on Edwin
Johnson
http://www.egodeath.com/uwetopperonedwinjohnson.htm
Study
Version of Edwin Johnson's "The Pauline Epistles - Re-Studied and
Explained", 1894 -- Reformatted copy for increased comprehensibility by
Michael Hoffman Oct. 8, 2003. Proposes
that the years 700-1400 didn't exist, and that Christianity, the
"early" Christian texts, Paul, the Gospels, the Church Fathers, the
Dark Ages, and the Middle Ages were literary inventions fabricated in competing
monasteries around 1500.
http://www.egodeath.com/edwinjohnsonpaulineepistles.htm
>>why
the Parisee called Magdalene is a sinner? She was thief or burglar? ... Yes,
she maybe was a harlot for some reasons. Anyway, I think she was a harlot
before meeting Christ as did another Sophia's reincarnations at every age,
Helen, Cleopatra, etc.
The
Historical Mary: Revealing the Pagan Identity of the Virgin Mother
Michael
Jordan, Feb. 2003
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1569753342
A major
theme in the Jewish bible is the popularity of cultic prostitution. Mary Magdalene and the Virgin Mary should be
considered as a cultic prostitute, or considered in light of cultic
prostitution. The book _The Historical
Mary_ proposes that the name "Mary" connotes cultic
prostitution. Matthew's genealogy of
Jesus includes five women who weren't monotheistic but who instead acted like
cultic prostitutes, which were used to engender divine kings.
I'm
especially interested in understanding what the veneration of Mary during the
Middle Ages was really all about. This
book covers that, and first establishes a base of cultic prostitution in the
ancient Near Eastern religions and the Jewish religion. Apparently there are three intermingled ways
of reading "virgin":
1. In
ancient and later times, themes around the "virgin" idea had
mystic/mythic meaning, in which religious mythic figures represent aspects of
the psyche, particularly reflecting the experiences and the insights of the
intense mystic altered state. I haven't
determined yet whether the book discusses mythic figures as personifications of
the phenomena of the psyche encountered during intense mystic altered-state
experiencing.
2. By the
principle of "as above, so below" -- as in the mythic/mystic realm,
so shall we literally act out -- actual sex was integrated into cultic
practice, both in ancient Near East religions and in medieval esoteric practice
(that is, European religion other than that of the official Church).
3. In
opposition to the mystic altered state meaning, and in opposition to the cultic
sex practice that largely reflected the mystic altered state meaning, the
official Church sought to create a competing, different reading of the
"virgin mother of God" concept, one that was suitable for strategically
co-opting and obscuring the mystic and cultic systems' reading of
"virgin" and "Mary" themes.
This book
doesn't integrate the cultic sex practices with a developed theory of entheogen
use, but does mention possible "drug" use, and mentions the trial by
drinking "dust and water", which Dan Merkur in "Mystery of
Manna" has shown probably meant trial by ergot. Entheogen theory holds that "under the tree", a main
theme of fertility cults, means, first of all, the Amanita mushroom, which
grows under the exactly the species of trees used in the fertility cults.
John
Allegro was severely punished for writing a book that combined several radical
proposals together: Jesus didn't exist, some early Christians were into cultic
sex, and some early Christians used entheogens. It is fully understandable that few authors are eager to cover
more than one controversial aspect of Christian origins, with Allegro swinging
by the neck in the background. The
inquisition doesn't kill authors literally these days, but it effectively kills
authors as far as their viability as respected scholars.
People
should expect that if the actual history of Christianity is profoundly
different than the professional Church historians claim, it is likely to be
different in more than just one or two ways: radically different in many ways,
ways that all come back together to form a system of religion that is wholly
alien from the picture painted by the official Church.
Single-issue
would-be "radical" historical revisionism is titilating but single
issue revisionism, by itself, is no threat to the official picture. Only when all ten, say, of the radical
revisions are reassembled, does the seriously threatening coherent alternative
telling of history fall into place.
The book
essentially confirms my still unformed hypothesis that the Virgin Mary somehow
"is" Mary Magdalene. It
proposes that the intended number of Marys is seven. I hold that all the Marys, all the Jesus/Joshuas, and all the
Simons/Peters are *essentially* myth, and are functionally entirely independent
of any historical figures that may have been similar.
Like
nearly all published books, this book is absurd in assuming the Bible
characters existed -- "we know that Peter was in Rome...". However, it is redeemed in that it mentions
"evidence that Jesus existed", thus admitting that we can't simply
take it for granted that Jesus existed.
Related:
The sacred
mushroom and the cross; a study of the nature and origins of Christianity
within the fertility cults of the ancient Near East
John
Allegro
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0340128755
Book
lists:
Philosophy
of Mother of God:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/listmania/list-browse/-/20S7TV13O9SLD
Mary
"John" Magdalene, The Beloved Disciple:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/listmania/list-browse/-/CV3ZTFHJV6TP
>>does
Gnostic Christianity believe that one must be a Gnostic Christian to survive
the Final Judgement?
Some
Gnostic groups did. Mystically, by
definition, survivors of the Final Judgement are Gnostic elect. Surviving the wrath of God and knowing and
experiencing God's omnipotence against the lower self amount to two metaphors
for the same thing.
Jay Raskin
proposes that a Mary rather than Lazarus was resurrected in the original
version of the story.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JesusMysteries/message/16744
This
posting relates to the theme of figuring out open secrets in Christian
allegory.
The most
beloved disciple of Jesus is Mary Magdalene.
This is a wide-open artistically conveyed secret.
It is
blatantly, openly obvious from the Last Supper that "John" is a name
representing Mary Magdalene and that Mary Magdalene is Jesus' favorite, beloved
disciple. The church authoritarians
were unable to suppress this view except in the scriptures they
controlled. John is always shown as a
woman, even in 19th-century Bibles.
There are 12 people around Jesus and one of the 12 shown is clearly
indicated as Judas, and one of the 12 shown is the woman close to Jesus,
clearly the most beloved disciple.
This easy
puzzle relies on the way the canon says there are 12 but never commits to
naming and tracking them.
In sacred
geometry, perfection is a sphere fully surrounded by 12 spheres that touch it.
From the
astrotheology perspective, Mary Magdalene is the moon, reflecting the light of
Jesus the sun.
I was able
to immediately confirm that this theory is pretty much standard.
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22beloved+disciple%22+%22mary+magdalene%22+%22last+supper%22
One of the
most interesting things about this revision (or partially suppressed key
tradition) of Mary Magdalene and the Beloved Disciple is the immediate
spreading of interlocking ramifications, showing a homeostatic state shift from
one stable state (the Literalist network of notions) to a quite different
stable state (the Gnostic network of notions).
This one change -- asserting that the Beloved Disciple is Mary Magdalene
-- in isolation may seem of limited import.
But when you consider the several other revisions that fit together with
it, this adds up to an earthquake of a change, a paradigm shift.
Mary
Magdalene was one of the 12 disciples and should possibly be considered one of
the 12 apostles.
Mary
Magdalene was the favorite of the 12 disciples.
Mary
Magdalene was Jesus' consort.
At his
crucifixion Jesus created a household family parent/child relationship between
Mary Magdalene and the Virgin Mary.
This
tradition is evident in art and in the Nag Hammadi scriptures, which indicates
that this whole time there has been a thriving tradition -- folk and Gnostic --
set very much against the authoritarian tradition.
Gnostics
were far more influential in creating and shaping the Christian storyline, and
have been a much stronger tradition, than the authoritarians have admitted.
Christianity
was largely created and shaped by women.
Early
Christianity was much more egalatarian regarding women than the authoritarian
tradition lets on.
The
Gnostic tradition has more uniformity in spirit than the authoritarian
tradition lets on. The authoritarian
tradition has been as diverse as the Gnostics.
This Mary
Magdalene-centered revision adds up to a peripheral yet moderately significant
area relevant to the theory of ego death.
It helps define Gnostic Christianity against Literalist
Christianity. The more we understand
Gnostic Christianity and their telling of the history of Christianity, the more
we find that they essentially knew the theory of ego death, and used the same
sacramental rites and techniques (sketch an Amanita here) found in the
entheogenic theory of the origin of religions.
We are
missing four key pages from the Gospel of Mary Magdalene, in which she reports
strange teachings. Regardless of what
was printed on those pages, there are indeed a *distinct set* of "strange
teachings" constituting the theory of ego death, such as the illusory
aspect of personal moral responsibility, and the timeless fixity and
pre-existence of our future stream of thoughts.
The
Literalist version of Christianity adds up to essentially a single closed *set*
of notions, and the Gnostic version of Christianity adds up to essentially a
different single closed *set* of notions.
In switching from the egoic mental worldmodel to the transcendent mental
worldmodel, the words we use to talk about time, control, and self may be the
same, but the network of associations changes dramatically or profoundly.
It is
remarkable how perfectly we can find two opposing versions of Christianity --
the Literalist tradition and the Gnostic tradition -- and map them exactly to
the egoic and transcendent way of thinking.
The Literalist version/tradition of Christianity clearly goes with egoic
thinking, and the Gnostic version/tradition of Christianity clearly goes with
transcendent thinking.
The
official or fitting version of Christianity for the theory of ego death is the
Gnostic version, including identifying Mary Magdalene with the Beloved
Disciple. The Theory is not a Christian
theory as opposed to an Islamic or Buddhist theory. All religions have a lower, Literalist version and a higher,
Gnostic version as defined by Freke & Gandy. Egoic thinking fits with Literalist religion; transcendent
thinking fits with Gnostic religion, even when considering world religions.
Freke
& Gandy's book on world religion or world mysticism covers entheogens, as
every valid book on world religion should.
As far as
I can tell, these three titles contain essentially the same material. The first seems impossible to get in the
U.S. The 2nd two are definitely the
same material.
Older
edition:
The
Complete Guide to World Mysticism
by
Timothy Freke, Peter Gandy
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0749917768
Nov
1998, 176 pages
4
reviews.
Newer
edition, hardcover:
The
Encyclopedia of Spirituality: Information and Inspiration to Transform Your
Life
by
Timothy Freke
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0806999055
256
pages, June 2000
Newer
edition, paperback:
Spiritual
Traditions: Essential Teachings to Transform Your Life
by
Timothy Freke
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/080699844X
256
pages, May 2001
>>The
beloved disciple was and has been considered, in esoteric Christianity, to be
Mary Magdalene, and "John" is a code-name for her.
>What
sources show that "John" is a code-name for Mary Magdalene?
There are
numerous sources.
In all
good paintings of the Last Supper, the beloved disciple next to or resting on
Jesus is provably female, lacking the Adam's apple and having emphatically
female characteristics.
Freke
& Gandy present this tradition.
Ramon
Jusino asks why the orthodox scholars pointedly ignore the possibility of MM as
the solution to the "mystery" of the identifty of the Beloved
Disciple. His website is Mary
Magdalene: Author of the Fourth Gospel?
http://www.beloveddisciple.org.
The
Beloved Disciple: Whose Witness Validates the Gospel of John?
by James
H. Charlesworth
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1563381354
See the
elipses here too, replacing Jusino's comments:
The Secret
Identity of the Beloved Disciple
Joseph
A. Grassi
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0809131218
Probably
relevant:
http://www.magdalene.org/contents.htm
Highly
relevant search:
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22mary+magdalene%22+%22beloved+disciple%22+john
Book list:
Mary "John" Magdalene, The Beloved Disciple
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/listmania/list-browse/-/CV3ZTFHJV6TP
All
evidence consistently points to a very strong tradition of popular Christianity
holding MM to be the Beloved Disciple, and orthodoxy considers John to be the
Beloved Disciple. This particular
"mystery" is a no-brainer.
It's just one component of many that build up together a *coherent*
esoteric popular tradition opposed to the pretense of the aristocrat-clergy
that John is the Most Beloved, male, Disciple.
Also, from a mythic consort point of view, a male Beloved makes less
sense than female.
I haven't
looked far enough into this to have a prepared comprehensive list of evidence,
but look through my book list. My
initial survey tentatively concludes that there is a plethora of evidence for a
popular female-John tradition.
One
confusing thing about the book Jesus and the Goddess is that too many things
are equated. Sophia is the Virgin Mary
is John is the Beloved Disciple is Mary Magdalene. Adding in Andrew Welburn, the equation continues: ... is Lazarus,
is the initiate. I reconcile these by
saying that they are various aspects of one part of the psyche.
Probably
relevant:
Book
list: Philosophy of Mother of God
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/listmania/list-browse/-/20S7TV13O9SLD
Book list:
Sophia, religious comprehension
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/listmania/list-browse/-/2T2MEH0AIY432
All polar
pairs map to the pair "unenlightened vs. enlightened", including the
pairs "unfaithful vs. chaste", "prostitute vs. virgin
mother", and "sinner vs. saint" -- and "Mary Magdalene vs.
Virgin Mary". As the sinner is
transformed to become saved, so does Mary Magdalene, in the psyche of the
initiate, become converted into the Virgin Mary. This is how a prostitute becomes a pure virgin mother.
Jesus'
last act from the Cross is to unite the lower, mundane, egoic part of the
psyche (Mary Magdalene) with the higher, divine, transcendent part of the
psyche (the Virgin Mother of the Deity).
John and
Mary Magdalene are so close, closer than twins, they converge into one
person. The official Literalist version
of Christianity attempts to separate them.
That
should be enough background and leads to enable confirmation that the original
Christians and the later heretics-mystics traditionally considered John a
code-name for Mary Magdalene.
Today I
posted this book review.
Mary
Magdalene, The First Apostle: The Struggle for Authority
Ann
Brock, 2003
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0674009665
5 stars
Democratic
Mary M. vs. Hierarchical Peter and Virgin Mary
Brock
shows that any given early Christian writing portrays authority as being
concentrated either in Mary Magdalene or Peter, but not both. Mary Magdalene is often replaced by Mary
mother of Jesus, who then is passive and affirms Peter's authority. The Peter figure is consistently elevated in
writings that promote hierarchical, male, formal authority such as Deacons,
Bishops, and Archbishops.
The Mary
Magdalene figure is consistently elevated is writings from which formal leadership
roles are absent. The Paul figure is
more involved in a tug-of-war between these two opposing systems of church
government.
Brock
tends to speak as though taking for granted the historical existence of the
Bible figures -- that may or may not be excusable. Those who wanted to concentrate power exclusively in the hands of
the leaders of a hierarchical church had good reason to literalize all the
Bible figures, whereas I would expect the democratizers such as elevated Mary
Magdalene as authoritative would be inclined to democratically put forth the
whole scheme as mythic-mystic metaphor.
I would
like to see this motive for literalization treated and possibly contrasted
between those who elevated the figure of Mary Magdalene (women, mystics, and
those not in power) and those who elevated the figure of Peter (male Roman
rulers).
Brock
demonstrates that among the gospels, Luke is the most pro-Peter and most
pro-hierarchy, promoting the narrowest and most formal concept of
"apostle". The whole idea of
a firmly restricted number of "apostles" aligns with the motives of
the Petrine camp and is against the spirit of the Mary Magdalene camp.
I am still
trying to understand whether this book postulates that Christianity began as a
women-driven religion that was later taken over by the men in power; whether
Mary Magdalene is practically the same as the Beloved Disciple and the
traditional figure of "John"; and whether Mary Magdalene should be
thought of as the mythic consort of the godman figure in the Christian system
of mythic-mystic religion.
This is a
solidly scholarly work that greatly advances Mary Magdalene studies and shows
the importance and full relevance of Mary Magdalene. Before reading Brock, I was inclined to think that because the
Mary Magdalene early tradition has been largely suppressed in the canon, a
theory of the core Christian mythic-mystic system need not cover her.
Brock
clearly reveals the importance of tracing in the canon the boundaries of this
battle for authority between the democratic and hierarchical camps. To a significant extent, the canon is
intrinsically shaped in the form of a conflict and contention between the two
camps; the canon reflects a great tug-of-war between two main scripture-shaping
camps, and cannot be meaningfully understood when approached as a single,
coherent, harmonious construction.
Brock
opens up the canon by demonstrating that it reflects opposing efforts to define
the structure of the church, the content of Christian doctrine, and the
socio-political role of women. The
scriptures can be rightly divided, putting aside the familiar Petrine
authoritarian tradition which was convenient for the Roman rulers, and freshly opening up the democratic direct
experience associated with the Mary Magdalene camp.
I would
like to see more about the association of direct mystic experiencing with the
Mary Magdalene advocates. This book is
more concerned with establishing the evidence for its specific, delimited
thesis that there was a struggle for authority, than with speculating about the
motives and mode of operation of the Orthodox authoritarian Christians (bishops
and other powerful, elite rulers) against the Gnostic Christians.
I posted
the book review of Mary Magdalene, The First Apostle: The Struggle for
Authority, shown below. Even though it
is a Radical review, it is marked as a Spotlight Review, with 30 of 41 people
so far voting that it was "helpful" in understanding what the book is
about and in deciding whether to purchase and read it. For the first few months, as I recall, this
book was ignored, and less of a majority voted my review as
"helpful".
Sales of
Brock's book increased after the book Da Vinci Code became a bestseller.
The Da
Vinci Code
Dan
Brown
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385504209
March
2003, Sales rank: #1, Reviews: 1,645
Out of my
45 book lists
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/cm/member-fil/-/A1YFCQT60M4XAJ
the
following book list, which includes Brock's book, became the most popular:
Mary
"John" Magdalene, The Beloved Disciple
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/listmania/list-browse/-/CV3ZTFHJV6TP
Here are
my most popular book lists, showing the number of times viewed:
1386 --
Mary "John" Magdalene, The Beloved Disciple
943 -- Picture story Bibles
927 -- Gnosticism
838 -- The entheogen theory of religion
730 -- Historical Jesus, or Christ Myth?
503 -- Mystery Religion, Myth, and the
Mystical State
474 -- Mythic-only Christ theory
393 -- Ecstatic Alchemy
376 -- Ancient Near Eastern religion
365 -- Reformed/Calvinist theology and
determinism
364 -- Original, experiential, mystical
Christianity
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Mary
Magdalene, The First Apostle: The Struggle for Authority
Ann
Brock, 2003
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0674009665
Rank: 8K
(very popular)
5 stars
Democratic
Mary M. vs. Hierarchical Peter and Virgin Mary
Brock
shows that any given early Christian writing portrays authority as being
concentrated either in Mary Magdalene or Peter, but not both. Mary Magdalene is often replaced by Mary
mother of Jesus, who then is passive and affirms Peter's authority. The Peter figure is consistently elevated in
writings that promote hierarchical, male, formal authority such as Deacons,
Bishops, and Archbishops.
The Mary
Magdalene figure is consistently elevated is writings from which formal
leadership roles are absent. The Paul
figure is more involved in a tug-of-war between these two opposing systems of
church government.
Brock
tends to speak as though taking for granted the historical existence of the
Bible figures -- that may or may not be excusable. Those who wanted to concentrate power exclusively in the hands of
the leaders of a hierarchical church had good reason to literalize all the
Bible figures, whereas I would expect the democratizers such as elevated Mary
Magdalene as authoritative would be inclined to democratically put forth the
whole scheme as mythic-mystic metaphor.
I would
like to see this motive for literalization treated and possibly contrasted
between those who elevated the figure of Mary Magdalene (women, mystics, and
those not in power) and those who elevated the figure of Peter (male Roman
rulers).
Brock
demonstrates that among the gospels, Luke is the most pro-Peter and most
pro-hierarchy, promoting the narrowest and most formal concept of
"apostle". The whole idea of
a firmly restricted number of "apostles" aligns with the motives of
the Petrine camp and is against the spirit of the Mary Magdalene camp.
I am still
trying to understand whether this book postulates that Christianity began as a
women-driven religion that was later taken over by the men in power; whether
Mary Magdalene is practically the same as the Beloved Disciple and the
traditional figure of "John"; and whether Mary Magdalene should be
thought of as the mythic consort of the godman figure in the Christian system
of mythic-mystic religion.
This is a
solidly scholarly work that greatly advances Mary Magdalene studies and shows
the importance and full relevance of Mary Magdalene. Before reading Brock, I was inclined to think that because the
Mary Magdalene early tradition has been largely suppressed in the canon, a
theory of the core Christian mythic-mystic system need not cover her.
Brock
clearly reveals the importance of tracing in the canon the boundaries of this
battle for authority between the democratic and hierarchical camps. To a significant extent, the canon is
intrinsically shaped in the form of a conflict and contention between the two
camps; the canon reflects a great tug-of-war between two main scripture-shaping
camps, and cannot be meaningfully understood when approached as a single,
coherent, harmonious construction.
Brock
opens up the canon by demonstrating that it reflects opposing efforts to define
the structure of the church, the content of Christian doctrine, and the
socio-political role of women. The
scriptures can be rightly divided, putting aside the familiar Petrine
authoritarian tradition which was convenient for the Roman rulers, and freshly opening up the democratic direct
experience associated with the Mary Magdalene camp.
I would
like to see more about the association of direct mystic experiencing with the
Mary Magdalene advocates. This book is
more concerned with establishing the evidence for its specific, delimited
thesis that there was a struggle for authority, than with speculating about the
motives and mode of operation of the Orthodox authoritarian Christians (bishops
and other powerful, elite rulers) against the Gnostic Christians.
__________________________
>Is the
"Da Vinci Code" ... highly relevant to the Egodeath discussion group?
Tangentially
relevant. It's Liberal Literalism,
lacking the mythic-only paradigm. Jesus
and MM literally existed and were literally married and had literal offspring
carrying the literal blood of a literal dynasty of literal kings. It's not based in mystic-state experiencing.
>Should
be read by anyone interested in the field ?
One should
know the poor paradigm it reflects: Liberal literalism deficient in mystic
altered-state experiencing, misreading metaphorical description of mystic
experiencing in a literalist mode.
Golden
Children's Bible: The Old Testament and the New Testament
Joseph
Miralles (Illustrator)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0307165205
Classic,
reprinted 1993, many pics, 512p, 9.7x7.0" (med-size), 58K rank (popular),
intermediate.
The
classic book Golden Children's Bible, following perhaps the dominant artistic
tradition, portrays John as a female. I
agree with the tradition that holds that the figure of Mary Magdalene was
renamed to "John" as a code-name due to orthodox coercion. Mary Magdalene as a figurehead is associated
with Gnostic Christian roots, while Peter is the conflicting champion of the
official hierarchical Church.
In this
book, Joseph Miralles represents John as having almost shoulder-length blond
hair, parted in the middle -- the same as Jesus. John is beardless, has no
visible breasts, and none of the figures have a visible Adam's apple. John almost always wears a lavender robe
with separate dark-blue sash. Jesus
wears a white robe with separate light-blue sash. When Jesus is shown with generic unnamed people, John is not
shown. When the people around Jesus are
specifically the apostles, John is sometimes shown. Peter wears a light brown robe with separate medium-brown sash,
and from one picture, wears a green undergarment.
Page 375 -
The 12 apostles are chosen
Jesus
sits on a rock, elevated above the apostles.
John sits at his left.
Page 441 -
Last Supper
John
sits at the left of Jesus, and Peter sits to the left of John. Jesus holds out half a loaf of bread in
either direction. John looks
disturbingly transvestite-like, with blatantly ambiguous gender, mainly female,
but too tall and subdued, almost flat chest.
Page 442 -
Foot washing
Jesus on
left washes Peter's foot on right.
John, looking like a pretty, tall blond with flat chest and soft chin,
and now fully shoulder-length hair, looks face out but down to the foot
washing.
I haven't
yet read the text, but this part is a highly objectionable distortion of
scripture: "Now close beside Jesus at the table was one of the disciples
whom he loved." That is a blatant,
flat contradiction of scripture, which clearly says *the* disciple whom Jesus
loved, above the others, in contrast to the others.
Page 454 -
Removal from cross
A woman
with white robe and blue top garment holds Jesus' body. Behind her is John,
holding part of some white cloth. A
closer woman wears burgundy robe with dark gray top garment. I would identify the woman holding Jesus as
Martha's sister Mary, because a woman in white and blue is shown in the Lazarus
scene on page 424. I would identify the
closer woman as possibly Mary Magdalene, though these Marys are a major shell
game, and the semi-suppressed tradition would say that John is Mary Magdalene.
Page 459 -
Doubting Thomas
The
apostle with parted blond hair is only visible near the neck and top half of
the head. In this picture alone, the
apostle with parted blonde hair is shown wearing a combination of dark brown
and red, barely visible.
Page 464 -
Peter heals the lame beggar
The
accompanying text begins "Now Peter and John went together into the temple
[with the gate called Beautiful]."
Peter and John are shown with their usual garments and hair style. John appears as a tall blonde, female but
not exactly pretty -- somewhat ambiguous in gender, but more female than male,
despite the height.
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