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Goal and Scope of the Egodeath Theory

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Goal and Scope of the Theory. 1

What's to be gained from grasping the theory?. 1

Ego Death Goals and Purpose. 8

The Goal of Understanding. 8

Planned topics/themes/puzzles. 10

What do you want from Egodeath?. 10

The Tubes: "What do you want from life", 1975. 14

Ever-shrinking core of ego-death theory. 15

Scope of Egodeath studies. 16

Purpose of the Egodeath site and group. 17

Core theory of Gnosis vs. Project of Increased Self-determination. 19

The goal of systematic egodeath theory. 19

Vindication of my framework; combination of key ideas. 25

The "ultimate ideas" theory of textual meaning. 27

Need better book knowledge, experience, & integration available. 27

Enlightenment as reducing cognitive dissonance. 28

Forming a native modern version of mystic religion. 28

Serenity valid motive for spirituality?. 29

Ran out of puzzles to solve. 29

EC's psychedelic theory of history, Objectivist theory of ego & political economics. 32

 

What's to be gained from grasping the theory?

What is the most immediate and convenient way to gain a specific kind of enlightenment and a certain kind of ultimate religious experience?

o  Print and read the overview of the cybernetic theory of ego transcendence at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath/message/1

o  Browse the rest of the http://www.egodeath.com site, and this discussion group.

o  Read the overview summary again while in the loose-cognition mode through the traditional, natural use of entheogens.

o  Read other books about the entheogenic origin of religions, and philosophy overview books.

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>If your theory of ego death is "true," so what?

Nothing.  That's an existential question.  What is the purpose of the universe?

If it is true, this means that when rational technical people attempt to use entheogens for various purposes, they will run headlong into the issues I've mapped out, sooner or later, and having this mature map readily available will help them make sense out of the limitations of self-control they run into when trying to explore and utilize the loose-cognition state for various purposes.

>What does your theory offer one? 

The most amazing experience and insight

The feeling of cancellation of moral responsibility

An ultimate religious experience

An intellectually satisfying solution to ancient questions of determinism. 

A map of some of the most amazing and surprising ideas and mental dynamics to be found in the loose-cognition state, to quickly make sense of what is found there.

Beyond these sorts of things, the theory offers nothing.  No world peace, just a temporary spiritual orgasm of revelation when the entheogen is combined with the set of principles I've gathered.

Ask the philosophers and spiritualists and entheogenists whose ideas I have gathered -- what does any such theory offer anyone?  Lately, I've increased my commitment toward drug policy reform to enable people to *experience* the intellectual principles in a way that packs a punch. 

This "theory" is really now a two-part system that combines a theoretical world-model with a particular cognitive state (loose cognition), in the most ergonomic and convenient way possible. 

Laboriously climbing mountains is not a goal for me or the system I'm building.  The goal is to bring people immediately and conveniently to the top.  Other systems adopt the goal of loving the path, the labor of the climb.  That's not a goal for me.  I just want to pop people to the top of this mountain directly, instantly, and effortlessly -- the lightning path, in a lightning vehicle. 

The loose-cognition state by itself cannot achieve this, and theory by itself cannot achieve this.  Only a *designed* and integrated system of theory and entheogen technique can come together to form a reliable and convenient lightning-vehicle.

>What can one gain from studying this theory or experiencing this type of ego-death?

Nothing except an experience and point of view.  Humility has nothing to do with it, tranquility is an alien goal, and world peace is not particularly associated with such a system of ergonomic enlightenment. 

If you seek peace and joy, a certain kind may come from this system, but it's not really motivated by commonly conceived spiritual peace and joy, so much as the wish to find the peace and joy of intellectual integrity.

>If I am living my entire life with my own thoughts about what kind of control I have or don't have, what difference does it make if I start thinking of it in the terms of the way you put it? 

My first, knee-jerk answer is, it doesn't make any difference at all.  The enlightened man lives just the same as anyone, chopping wood and carrying water -- radically ordinary.  This even raises painful existential questions, as addressed in the end of the acid-rock album Caress of Steel. 

For people who have questions, who have been filled with wonder and conflict about self-control and religious experience, the theory and technique contains definite answers, easily conveyed with plain language and utterly straightforward and immediate techniques.

So you have conquered Earth's highest mountain -- but so what?  So what.  What is existence or enlightenment or anything for?  What difference does *anything* make?  What difference does bliss, peace, certainty, or victory mean, and what use are they?  What difference do they make?

>What does it give me and how is that beneficial, such that one would desire to follow through with the  program you set forth? 

The program I set forth is nothing more than spending some hours reading and spending some sessions in the loose-cognition state, reflecting upon the principles of the theory and encountering the control vortex and the fatal problem of self-control. 

It would be possible to run a series of a few weekend retreats, but group activities are not necessarily the best way to explore the concepts.  A short college course with loosecog field trips would be more than adequate. 

Like some of the commoditized personal development retreats, I emphasize convenience first of all.  If a programme of self-development is not ultra-convenient, forget it -- a non-convenient system would be a false, never-ending, never-fulfilling system.  Either it's nearly immediate, or never-ending and never succeeding.

It is hard to describe how trivial and simple and un-special such a system is.  I aim to pull spirituality down off its pedestal.  My only audience who understands this is the androids.  I want enlightenment packaged as merely a $10 shareware program freely downloadable -- any more complex and valued system is a never-reachable fantasy that revels in the chase. 

I don't want to cut to the chase, but eliminate it completely.  If I wrote a novel, it would only have the last page.  This is the only system that cannot be called a "path" -- it's pure destination.  So it's not a "programme" so much as an immediately learnable idea that is meant to be combined with the loose-cognition state.

>I apologize in advance for not reading over your site, I find that I often don't have time for long bouts of reading on the internet and that, even when I do, it often makes me eyes hurt and/or gives me a headache.

It is my fault for providing too much information, too many details such that you cannot see the simple single tree in the middle.  My concept for the site is a pyramid where you start with a perfect 1-page summary at the top, then delve into details as you like. 

However, I find that I prefer spending my time expanding the scope of my knowledge rather than polishing the site.  The comprehensive summary I've written is really not that bad.

What I recommend that people do is print and read carefully the overview, and browse the rest of the site, and then read the overview again while in the loose-cognition mode through the traditional, natural use of entheogens.  And it would be good to read other books about the entheogenic origin of religions, and philosophy overview books.  I want to list and review my favorite 25 books at the site.

I might never clean up the site or publish an impressive scholarly work, but people need a short introductory comic book, above all -- combined with loose cognition.

My ultimate criticism of philosophy is that it lacks the entheogen, the ability to trigger interesting and vivid experience.  My ultimate criticism of drug-free meditation is that it is *inconvenient* as a method for producing intense experience.

I am engineering the *most convenient* method for producing intense intellectual experience.  I am more like writing a compact computer program to better express the ancient insights, rather than writing a book or creating a new spiritual tradition.

All this large quantity of writing I have to do is just unfortunate; eventually it should all be compacted into a short article, comic book, or learning module.

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What is the most immediate and convenient way to gain a specific kind of enlightenment and a certain kind of ultimate religious experience?

o  Print and read the overview of the cybernetic theory of ego transcendence at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath/message/1

o  Browse the rest of the http://www.egodeath.com site, and this discussion group.

o  Read the overview summary again while in the loose-cognition mode through the traditional, natural use of entheogens.

o  Read other books about the entheogenic origin of religions, and philosophy overview books.

>>So, where do you go from here?

Ergonomically systematize and package the set of simple principles and define how to use them with loose cognition.  Create a simple quick guide that straightforwardly teaches the systematic principles of transcendent knowledge.

>>What does this knowledge give you?  What do you gain?

Transcendent knowledge, which is a more accurate and coherent and refined mental worldmodel than the egoic worldmodel.

>>Is your life any easier than the milk man who has no cognitive awareness of such things as a block-universe, loose cognition, or even ego death?

Cognitive dissonance specifically regarding the intellectual understanding of time, will, self, and control is removed or greatly lessened.  One might remain an alcoholic or controlaholic, but now, one degree more comfortable by understanding why self-control is inherently less securable than the idealistic posi-control which self-help seminars promise as panacea.

>>If you are in a 'loose cognition' state you are able to receive information easier.

The mind is able to reconceive mental construct networks easier and revise them more deeply than in the default state of tight cognition (tight cognitive-association binding).

>>Are you looking to take this information and create a new human consciousness?

It is not new consciousness; it is newly *systematized* consciousness.  Scholars only know a fraction of what has been written, but as far as we know or I know, this model is the clearest that the dynamics of ego death and ego transcendence has ever been systematized.

>>Are you offering this information just for those who have ears to hear?

A top priority is to prove that the main, most important and profound aspects of enlightenment are very simple and are easy to deeply experience, grasp, and comprehend, despite what practically all theorists and spiritualists maintain. 

Rather than taking an attitude of proving this model to skeptics, the best approach is to clarify what the model is, as clearly and simply as possible, and let those who are so inclined use their own judgement.  I intend to define a practical framework which anyone is able to do research within if they are so inclined.

>>What can you do with this information?

Jump to a more coherent understanding of the relationship of self, time, world, will, and control.  Experience some of the very most stunning experiences.  Enhance the whole of life by adding a different perspective on the scope of life and on daily life.

>>How can this information be translated into "daily life" and not turn out to be some hobby [particular activity bounded in duration] that is an externality of the libido.

How can any one component of a full life be translated into ongoing day-to-day life?  How can the moon shot be so translated into daily life?  How do moments of climax become translated into daily life?  What is the relationship between any special or unique time-bounded experience, versus daily life?  How can the experience of going to an exotic country be translated into daily life -- what is our philosophical explanation about that? 

Touring a foreign land must be irrelevant to daily life, by some measure, and contributes to daily life in some doubtful, debatable, nebulous sense: "Visiting Timbuktu enhances your scope of what human existence is all about," so they claim.  How does playing a video game enhance day-to-day life?  If you can tell me how you explain that, then you can tell me just as well how transcendent knowledge has any relevance to non-mystical daily life. 

It is false that the only possible way for a particular time-bounded experience to have any value is if that finite experience is infinitely woven, clearly and strongly, all throughout daily life.  Life comprises differentiated compartments that have only partial overlap or cross-influence.  It is demanding an impossibility if we insist that spirituality be fully present in the fullness of its potency during every moment of ongoing life. 

The only sense in which that can practically happen, for ordinary people living in the real world, is if we falsely shrink the stature of the mystic realm to attempt to force it into a shape which it does not in fact have, together with distorting the reality of daily life into a shape which it does not have and will not have, in the practical real world of real people. 

You can artificially daydream about so elevating day-to-day life that it expands to fit the shape of the full-on mystic realm, but it is not going to happen, not for real people living in the real constraints of the real world.  In practice, the mystic realm has one scope and shape, and the realm of daily life has a different, only partly overlapping, scope and shape.  The most awe-inspiring aspects of the mystic realm cannot and will not fit into the scope of ongoing daily life. 

If you then disparage and discard those aspects of the mystic realm which stubbornly refuse to submit to your preconceptions -- which refuse to be shrunken and distorted to fit a mold of some idealized glorified daily life -- that can only lead to delusion about the scope of the mystic realm and of daily life.  It is a distortion of sex and of daily life to try to force sex and daily life to be the same thing.  Daily life cannot be, as Freud would have it, all about sex. 

Daily life has many aspects, many of which have some, limited, relation to various realms of experiencing.  It is a form of reduction -- distortion -- to try to define daily life wholly in terms of any one realm -- sex, mysticism, virtual reality environments, sports, and so on.  Daily life is inspired by *many* realms of temporally-bound experiencing, but daily life is not wholly inspired by any one particular realm of temporally-bound experiencing which daily life comprises. 

You can't really get anywhere without understanding the idea of differentiation of departments of life or of knowledge, such as in Ken Wilber's Integral Theory, or my equivalent, domain dynamics.  Many profound aspects of the mystic realm utterly elude all or most of daily life.  The most spiritual and enlightened and elevated daily life is not the same as the distinctive aspects of the realm of mystic experiencing. 

It makes no sense -- it's a totally incoherent idea -- to judge the value of any temporally-bound realm of specialized experiencing in terms of its effect on ongoing daily life.  If you assert that sexual climax totally transforms every aspect of ongoing daily life, you've put forth a distorted conception of both sexual climax and daily life. 

When you force two partially overlapping areas to be a single undifferentiated area, this is not integration; it's distortion and reduction, which attempts to declare as unreal those aspects of the two realms that don't overlap and cannot overlap.  You cannot fit all of the mystic realm into the realm of daily life: it does not and will not fit; those aspects of the mystic realm can only have a nebulous and remote influence on daily life. 

For the enlightened mind, the experience of chopping wood and carrying water is not entirely elevated and transformed, and to demand that it be so, is to demand an impossibility, which involves distorting both the nature of daily life and of the mystic realm, claiming that daily life can be something it cannot be, and claiming that the mystic can be fit into a shape it cannot be fit into.

Popular spirituality has crudely overoptimistic hopes for the degree to which the mystic realm can change daily life.  A weepy depressed disappointment is the certain outcome.  Enlightenment is the greatest disappointment in the world, for the egoic expectations of what can be gained from enlightenment. 

Beware of the egoic conception of ego transcendence, which, through wishful thinking and preconceived ideas, demands of life and enlightenment things that life cannot give and that enlightenment cannot be.  The most awesome aspects of enlightenment inherently reach beyond the realm that daily life can encompass, and that reaching beyond is much of how the mystic realm adds value to the whole of life. 

The whole of life cannot be equated with daily life, because the whole of life includes daily life and includes many different realms of experiencing that don't and cannot and will not occur in daily life, as far as all real-world evidence indicates. 

It is pie-in-the-sky wishful thinking, without any real evidential basis whatsoever, and at the extreme a denial of reality, to assert that daily life can be elevated to the heights of profundity and intensity that the transcendent mystic realm has.  Some of the mystic realm can have some degree of effect on some aspects of life, but for actual people, the mystic realm has always had a partial overlap with daily life -- not no overlap, and not an entire identity, but a *partial* overlap.

The answer to "What use is enlightenment for daily life?" is "What use is daily life for enlightenment?"  What use is any part of life, to a distinct, only partially overlapping, other part of life?  The mystic realm in fact does not slavishly serve and conform to the standards on ongoing daily life, no matter how elevated one tries to make ongoing daily life. 

The mystic realm in its most definitive and distinctive form is a climax of experiencing, while daily life has never been such a climax.  Shall we then banish that climax, or falsely and jealously declare it to not exist?  One ought to align oneself with the diverse *whole* of life -- per Integral Theory -- rather than with some limited subset, which is ongoing daily life with all the particular realms removed.

Here is an easy question: What does the transcendent mystic realm have to do with the whole of life?  It contributes much of the most valuable and distinctive; that realm comprises a great range of spectacular potentials that are often noteworthy and valuable because of their difference from anything that would be practical for daily life.  Since when is the daily the measure of the whole entirety? 

People are applying harsh and unrealistic demands to the mystic, that they would never apply to any other realm.  Since when is the hardly mystical daily realm the standard of measure to which the mystical peaks must conform?  To insist upon such conformity is to speak untruth about the real, practical potential of daily life and about the scope and applicability and utility of the mystic peaks. 

The utility of those aspects of the mystic realm that refuse to just serve the ongoing daily realm, is that they provide metaphysical enlightenment, open up a vast realm of potential experiencing, and shine light on daily life in various ways, to various extents.

Insofar as pop meditation religion doesn't open up these nonordinary realms, these realms that escape the potential scope of daily life, such meditation-religion has its limits and does not define the limits of what religion has to contribute to the whole of life.  The whole of life cannot be truly reduced to daily life; there are real, practical limits to how much daily life can be transformed and elevated. 

Parts of the mystic realm will experientially tower over daily life, separate and distinct from daily life, remotely and intangibly giving perspective on daily life without clearly changing and transforming daily life.  In practical reality, talking about actual people and not wishful-thinking ideals and expectations, the most elevated daily life in the world does not reach into the depth of profound value that the mystic realm brings to the whole of life. 

Parts of the mystic realm are, by any reasonable measure, higher than and distinct from, the most elevated ongoing daily life.  There is no evidence to the contrary -- only idealistic wishful thinking, that ends up decapitating the mystic realm out of envy because the daily cannot succeed at its wish to contain the mystic peaks. 

It is actually easy to create a systematic, straightforwardly intelligible, ergonomically communicable model of ego death and ego transcendence that explains the main part of such a kind of mystic transcendence experiential realm.

>>You're interested in creating exhilarating experiences and not concerned so much with the rest of life.

People can't easily get ahold of peak experiences because we try to blend mundane life and religious experience too much.  It is a dogma of our time that religious experience should be measured in terms of how it affects everyday life.  But everyday life is just everyday life, and religious experience is set apart by its elevation or radical otherness compared to mundane life.  We might be able to mix these, but first we need to gain religious experience, before we can integrate it.

If your goal is peace in everyday life, that is one kind of spiritual goal.  I am working on the opposite kind of spiritual goal -- how to provide a radically discontinuous and set-apart transcendent experience that contrasts against everyday life.

>>Something like cybernetically revised The Psychedelic Experience.

>I'm positive that Wilber is underestimating the value of entheogens in his theory

Remember, he is a moving target.  He underestimated entheogens in past years, but he may be caught up by now.

>>but I think you are underestimating the real importance of meditation: loving-kindness, compassion, etc.

It is debatable whether loving-kindness and compassion are "the real importance" of meditation.  You are free to draw that association, but don't be surprised if I disown that "spiritual path" and its goal. 

You may be affirming that drug-free meditation is in fact associated with a type of spirituality that is concerned mainly with such common values as loving-kindness and compassion.  I would warn with Wilber overtones, however, that such a spirituality is purely translative and not transformative.  It doesn't blow your mind or lead to a sudden discontinuous re-penting, a transformation of thinking.

I am interested in a sudden deep transformation from one definite particular worldmodel to another -- a perfectly specific and clear transformation, as opposed to the hazy feeling-oriented kind of "growth" and "spiritual insight" as embraced by the popular meditation-oriented type of spirituality. 

The latter belongs to the world of the ego and the egoic world-model; it is a spirituality that soothes and reinforces the egoic delusion, at least in many ways.  It is a mere translative kind of spirituality.  It is valuable, but of lesser stature than the radical lightning-transformation discontinuous revelation of the traditional, natural technology of entheogenic mystery-religion such as I am mapping out.

There are two kinds of spirituality: the common kind that overflows from the newage bookstores, and the radical kind that I portray as an intellectual revolution that kills ego instantly dead in a certain way.  These are largely independent types of spirituality. 

There are a million people already travelling on the broad path of loving-kindness meditation-oriented religion.  I am not terribly concerned with them.  I'm working on the gap, the *other* kind of spirituality, which provides a short and vertical path to instant revelation, and sits in discontinuous contrast with the daily life in which we are enmeshed.

>If the feeling for others is not there, then meditation, yoga, you name it, seem all to be quite the same experience-hunting and your method just might be the best of them. I don't think Wilber talks that much about nirvana. Who cares about "nirvana". It's so out of this world anyway.

Wilber talks about the ultimate state of consciousness.  And he has written so much, I really hesitate to assess his view on nirvana.

He and I emphasize entirely different things.  We don't necessarily disagree on particulars, though our world-models do in some way disagree.  We disagree on what is important and what methods are most practical and effective, and what the goals are -- or what the goal of religious experience is really all about.  It will take more work to pin down the exact points of dispute.

>Better Living Through Blotters.

What ideas do different traditions promote as constituting "better living"?  What is "better" -- the worldview of meditation-based feeling-based spirituality, or entheogen-based intellectual spirituality?  Both of these combinations I contrast as extreme opposites may have some pro's and con's. 

Entheogen-based intellectual spirituality can have totally specific and achievable goals -- it doesn't promise world peace, but it does deliver immediately and directly what it advertises, unlike meditation, which, by many measures, fails to deliver on its promises. 

I work on reigning in the promises and providing fast delivery on the few remaining promises, with instant gratification of the desire to experience a sudden mental world-model transformation and a kind of complete ego-death experience together with a map that captures and rationally explains the insights that are encountered.

It is crucially important work to describe these promises and defining and differentiate a "new" set of goals and methods.  It is of utmost importance to define how this approach to religious experiencing stands apart from the accustomed approaches and worldviews. 

That's the only way an alternative approach can be viably sustained -- by being understood as distinct from other approaches.  This is like the challenge of a mind constructing a separate ego to differentiate the person from the environment.  As the ego must in a sense "reject" the environment as not-me, a rational entheogen-based religious metaphysical philosophy must "reject" all accustomed spirituality, to stand out as being truly an alternative with its own distinct presence.

Ego Death Goals and Purpose

1) dealing with these discussions concerning mind/consciousness expansion and what is termed ego-death, what is the primary function of these debates?

To formulate an explicit, rational, specific, simple theory of the ego death and recovery experience.

>2) what does the term/concept 'ego-death' truly signify?

The end of the dominance of a mental worldmodel that assumes oneself is an absolute creator of one's thoughts, actions, future, and movement of will.  The main components of the mental model that transform are the concepts of time, self, control, and will.  A large network of concepts is transformed all together.

>3) what does the ego represent in terms of the mind?

The sense of being a metaphysically free, sovereign agent that controls and truly originates one's thoughts and actions.

>4) what is the ultimate goal aspired to by the death of the ego?

Greater integrity and coherence of one's mental worldmodel, especially with regards to oneself as a controller moving through time.  This might or might not lead to a more balanced life or positive mood.  I consider mental worldmodel integrity to be a self-existing goal in itself.  The goal is also to experience the most intense and amazing experience people have encountered.  See the earliest threads in this discussion group for more information about what a theory of ego death is good for.

The Goal of Understanding

>>If "understanding" all of this is the goal or desire then peace remains out of reach as the person living with desire is never happy and peaceful. Satisfaction is when the desire is gone.  It ends up that the only peaceful goal is to be psychologically free from goals. That only happens when it is understood that it is enough to be. No one in our society has ever been brought up with the sense that it is enough that they simply are! Quite the opposite.

Understanding is my goal, and I'm achieving that.  I adhere to goals, and intend to be.  I'm stressed, and that's inherent in goal seeking.  I am at peace.  I used to seek peace, and couldn't find it -- I hoped for peace and eliminating cognitive dissonance by gaining self-mastery.  Now I seek to formally polish and publish my understanding of transcendence, and no longer strive much for self-mastery and peace.

There is no particular reason why we should adopt peace or lack of desire as a goal.  We are existentially free to choose our goals.  You assume too much, without justification, about the purpose of religious experiencing and spirituality. 

Many people consider the ultimate goal and highest value of human life to be experiencing ego death, rebirth, and ego transcendence.  I systematize ego death, but it is debatable that experiencing or understanding ego death is inherently our ultimate goal.  Different people adopt different goals.  We can theorize with Wilber and the mystics that people's real goal, unbeknownst to them, is realizing oneness, and all their other activities are frustrating substitutes -- but that is debatable. 

Ego death certainly can be considered an ultimate goal for the egoic mind, as the cross was the ultimate goal or fate lying ahead for the earthly Jesus.  Ego, when developed to fulfilment, leads to its own self-traitorship.  The self-control power, when developed fully, is destined to cancel itself out.  Egoic control power is a trap set for itself (Watts). 

In that sense, the "real goal" of the egoic mind is ego death and ego transcendence.  But I usually talk instead of ego death as being "an inherent potential" of the egoic mind, rather than saying that ego death is the real goal of the egoic mind.

Conventional spirituality assumes, without proper debate, that the purpose of spirituality is peace of mind.  I'd say that enlightenment does lead to peace of mind if one is vexed with the task of gaining self-control while holding a confused model of self-control.  In my experience, experiencing and understanding ego death and ego transcendence is overwhelmingly more signifant than the relatively petty and trite goal of achieving peace of mind.  Peace of mind is not on my list of goals, though it was, way back when I was struggling to make rational sense of Watt's The Way of Zen. 

In the most significant sense, I achieved deep peace of mind when I discovered that his book made sense by adopting a block-universe model into which one's self-control stream is timelessly frozen.  On the mundane level, my mind is often full of stress rather than peace, but on the deep level, upon the joyful intellectual discovery of a coherent solution in January 11, 1988, I attained cognitive coherence and a peace of mind in a deep sense.  Then I began work on connecting that space-time-control model to Christianity, which presented various cognitive dissonances and challenges, but did not cancel my deep rest. 

In fact, as the revelation of how to connect my core theory with Christianity was exploding through my mind all during the day of November 14, 2001, that day and that week were extremely stressful and vexing, presenting challenges to my self-management and throwing a wrench in my scheduled plans. 

Yet on the deep level, I retained a certain kind of peace.  In the end, the notion of peace of mind is a little too simplistic, as are most self-help and positive-thinking books; they wilt in the face of reality.  Watts covers the pattern of stress buildup and release in satori, in his book.  But he does not simply assume that peace is the goal and purpose of enlightenment -- he often assaults and demolishes that conventional assumption. 

The enlightened mind may have peace or may be in conflict with itself, but it doesn't add an additional layer of dissonance about its dissonance.  If you construct a more paradoxical view of peace of mind, as being peace about stress, sometimes there will be peace and sometimes stress, but not an additional layer added by the dream of being spiritually peaceful all the time.  Watts emphasizes that the enlightened man screams without hesitation as he is stabbed through; the enlightened monk sits feeling sorry for himself and does not add an additional layer of stress about the fact of his imperfect condition.

Enlightenment is not simply about being in peace all the time, or about acting humble all the time, or acting spiritual all the time.  Those are all misleading common notions and assumptions. 

Enlightenment is about seeing and understanding the way in which ego is an illusion.  Those other goals are mundane self-help.  Don't confuse enlightenment with mere banal self-help.  Enlightenment is sacred, lofty, ultimate, and elevated, and is independent of such petty details as mood and style of personality. 

Enlightenment is not a lifestyle or code of conduct, though those who lack enlightenment assume it to be all these mundane things.  We talk of esoteric versus exoteric Christianity, esoteric versus popular Buddhism.  The same must be true with spirituality in general: there is esoteric spirituality, and exoteric spirituality.  People assume that spirituality is about the goals and purposes of exoteric spirituality -- smiling and floating along in life.  Esoteric spirituality is not really about smiling and floating along in life -- it's about understanding and experiencing transcendent knowledge.  Esoteric spirituality is not a lifestyle, personality style, code of conduct, or system of self-deprecating politeness.

Before I sought enlightenment, I was an ordinary man.  While seeking enlightenment, I had a halo, and birds would leave flowers where I walked.  Now I no longer have a halo, and the animals no longer pay me any particular attention. 

I used to have no opinion about my peace or dissonance of mind.  Then I had great dissonance about my dissonance of mind.  Now I no longer have a preference about my peace or dissonance of mind.  This pattern of meta-dissonance and stress about self-control, leading to a revelatory release, is found in Paul the Apostle, Augustine, and Luther.

Planned topics/themes/puzzles

Prostitute becomes virgin via Christ creation.

Rebirth implies holy family

thorn crown (around head or heart)

heart stabbed in woman

heart with cross and thorns

Xns do sacrifice and eat babies!

Sacrifice your firstborn to Moloch!

Taste of my oral teaching

Acid dissolves sin, acid is Christ's flesh, HS as acid dissolving sin and blindness -- Dissolve your firstborn child in acid to be saved. Dissolve the old self.  Throw your demon in vat acid, cast down into, throw acid on your witch.

Mystery Mother Mary is God.  Literalist Mother Mary is Anti-Christ.

Initiate is whole cast/family

Paul the runt - homunculus

Stiff wavy snake - frozen worldline

Exodus from Chaos-monster

Jesus was actually a theorist of entheogenic deterministic self-ctrl cybics.

Higher/bigger creature over lower/smaller - tho ower must sac'd, lower acts as causer/giver/ bringer/ parent of salvation.

logos=pattern

Critique the "You/we are really consciousness" idea of Freke/Gandy.  (What does "you" or "we" point to?  Sure, consciousness *exists*, but where does or should the "you" come in?  Ego slips in...)

What do you want from Egodeath?

The theory of enlightenment I've pulled together has no more "limitation" than metaphysical enlightenment itself has "limitations".  People treat the theory like a universal panacea and Rorsatch test: whatever they feel they need, lack, want, and wish for, they ask -- and demand -- that metaphysical enlightenment provide it. 

They, while asserting they are unenlightened, nevertheless dictate how enlightenment must be defined as providing everything they wish it be and assume ahead of time that it must be.  Any version of enlightenment that fails to provide their expected goods, they judge as not adequate, not acceptable as enlightenment. 

"Everyone knows" that, by definition, enlightened people float about and never know dissonance.  Any particular system of enlightenment fails to make people float about, and fails to forget all dissonance, therefore, all particular systems are deemed to be inadequate and too-limited systems of enlightenment.

How should 'enlightenment' be defined?  What are the main kinds of 'enlightenment' that ought to be differentiated?

A. The emancipation from oppression by religious authorities around 1750.

B. Foggy New Age spiritual enlightenment that puts a misty glow on everything you do during the day ("stinking of Zen", per Alan Watts).

C. Metaphysical enlightenment about the relation between time, self, will, agents, and control.

The cybernetic theory of ego death addresses 'enlightenment' of type C.  Unless I specify otherwise, when I write 'enlightenment', I mean metaphysical enlightenment as opposed to New Age spiritual enlightenment or early-modern political enlightenment.

How should a theoretical model and embodiment of enlightenment be judged, for whether it is adequate and ideal as a model of enlightenment?  The model should be concise, clear, specific, distinct, simple, elegant, summarizable, and comprehensive in coverage of all essentials.  It should be theoretically integrated with methods of nonordinary experiencing.

Does metaphysical enlightenment have anything at all to do with improving daily life?  If so, what is the extent of this relationship?

Enlightenment has some limited ability to improve daily life, but the assumed extent of overlap has been blown out of all reasonable proportion.  Metaphysical enlightenment provides only a fraction of the ideas and habits that are required for the special topic or special skill of improving day-to-day life.

In what sense is enlightenment 'limited'?

Enlightenment provides a *coherent understanding* of self, time, control, will, and agency; it does *not* provide direct *power* over these things.

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What practical benefits are to be expected and demanded from spiritual enlightenment?  I have had people literally tell me that they take it for granted that enlightenment provides one of the following:

Making all moments of daily life glow, uplifted with spiritual infusion -- this is the standard New Age spirituality notion, a project which many agree upon and expect from enlightenment because... because many people agree and expect it.

World peace -- per the mystic metaphor in Revelation; after the great cosmic uncovering, all will be peaceful, lion laying down with lamb, no more sorrows.

The end to sadness and depression -- "obviously", if one is enlightened, one would be happy and in bliss all the time.

Ending the WOD -- the tree of knowledge will be open for business on every street corner of heaven, as it plainly says in Revelation

Ending oppression -- "obviously", becoming spiritually enlightened will make everyone be nice to each other, and no one will want to take coercive advantage of anyone else any more.

Giving self-integrity of personal self-management -- "obviously", understanding transcendent knowledge of self-controllership and personal control agency will give a person complete control over their will and self-control thoughts.

Radically eliminating all mental, cognitive dissonance -- "obviously", once you are enlightened, you'll no longer experience any cognitive dissonance of any sort; everything will go fine and nice in your life and in your experience; you'll never be in a bad mood again.

Financial wealth -- "obviously", being enlightened brings self-mastery, which strongly correlates with wealth.

Ability to create gold

Magically commanding the spirits to provide gold, influence, power

Pious worshipping of God, giving glory to God

Eliminating all egotistical egoism -- "obviously", one who transcends the ego is completely humble and self-deprecating, by definition; any thing otherwise is of course unthinkable and a self-contradiction.

Eternal, immortal life -- since aging is caused by cognitive dissonance, and being enlightened means you have no cognitive dissonance any more, enlightenment naturally results in cessation of aging.

Eternal youth -- someone assures me that the secret of alchemy is that eating gold makes you live forever without aging

Prophetic ability to predict the future -- someone in the discussion group assumed that the mystic experience of timelessness would "of course" give the ability to see the future; "obviously", seeing timelessness is seeing all time, "by definition".

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They mistake the transcendent Good for infinite goods.

The specific enlightenment is the achievable enlightenment that is guaranteed to deliver its promised benefits.  Generally, enlightenment does not provide anything but enlightenment.  The benefit of getting metaphysical enlightenment is that you get metaphysical enlightenment, which can be used for having metaphysical enlightenment. 

In terms of the Christian myth-religion, the purpose of regeneration and salvation is giving glory to God and gaining imperishable and mature, perfected, completed life.

Enlightenment does not bring world peace, despite Revelation; rather, in Revelation, world peace is used as a metaphorical description of events from the mystic state.

Enlightenment does not add a magic glow to all you do in daily life; it merely removes one type of cognitive dissonance.  This localized and limited correction of one's mental worldmodel can be *combined* with *other* improvements of thought and life that are *distinct from* enlightenment proper.  To enhance day-to-day life, use broad-sense "enlightenment", which is a mix of narrow-sense metaphysical enlightenment with *other* elements of self-improvement. 

But metaphysical enlightenment, though blendable and integratable with other facets or areas of self-improvement, remains distinct and differentiated.

Enlightenment is not a panacea; for a thousand achievements other than corrected understanding of self-controllership, enlightenment by itself is not sufficient; enlightenment *itself* has boundaries and limitations, just as any tool and area of life has boundaries and limitations. 

The demands and expectations everyone has piled sky-high on top of enlightenment guarantees that no one will ever attain *that* unreal, hazy, dreamy, wishful, inchoate, ill-defined mirage of that "enlightenment": that is "the hyper-inflated conception of enlightenment", which is opposed to my concrete, finite, limited, downscaled, specific and easily achievable *real-world* enlightenment, which cannot be anything more than one tool among many for improving the world.

Real-world, restricted-scope, scaled-down enlightenment is the most valuable and lofty thing in the world, the best part of life, but no part of life could ever be a panacea.  Demand the sky, and I guarantee you won't ever get it.  Demand mere transcendent knowledge, as one, most valuable fraction of a full and complete life, and I guarantee you can get it, far more easily than ever, through the controlled, bounded, and constrained theory of ego death I've pulled together.

Get 185 people together in a discussion group, and you'll hear 185 different assumptions demanding 185 different benefits from enlightenment, and 185 different criticisms of the cybernetic self-control theory of enlightenment for not meeting the expectation each person has set forth, as firmly and as confidently as thoughtlessly.

What do *you* demand and expect from enlightenment?  How do *you* define enlightenment?  What expectations do *you* hold that enlightenment must live up to?

Anyone who believes the kinds of benefits above is a naive fool, led about into disappointment by their own runaway assumptions and wishful thinking about their own preconceived notions of what enlightenment ought to entail and provide.  In the search for their own fantasized, inflated hazy dream of what enlightenment ought to provide and ought to be about, they don't attain the enlightenment that *is* attainable. 

Full basic enlightenment is easy; the price is that you must reign in what you expect and demand from enlightenment, and sacrifice your precious freewill assumption, replacing it by a radically transcendent and emphatically beyond-rationality kind of freedom that is specifically not the child's naïve freewill assumption.

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New Agers, particularly in reaction after 1960s when the efficacy of entheogens for inducing the mystic state was firmly established and universally conceded as fact, *insist* on permanently welding metaphysical enlightenment to ethics, and -- in the extreme yet almost typical version of this strategic stance -- literally and explicitly deny *all* value to metaphysical enlightenment itself, and *only* grant value to the *undifferentiated combination* of narrowly-defined enlightenment with ten thousand other "required" goals and concerns; they stoop so low as to go out of their way to deny all value to metaphysical altered-state mystic enlightenment itself, while, inconsistently, they are ready to grant value to *other* isolated areas of life, such as sex, relationships, ecology, daily life within the ordinary state of consciousness.

When pushed against the wall by the plain ramifications of entheogens' uncontestable superb efficacy, the jealous, entheogen-diminishing Establishment-friendly New Age spirituality stance resorts so low as to hold this set of values:

sex - valuable